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	<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs</link>
	<description>The blog of Murrion Software</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on FuelTweet – A Twitter application sharing cheap fuel prices by Gordon Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/2010/02/fueltweet-%e2%80%93-a-twitter-application-sharing-cheap-fuel-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

Nice one for the feedback, thats what I was hoping for.

I didn't know about those Search parameters, Thanks for that.

We plan to add price validation or approval, so users can give a price a 'Thumbs up' or a verified vote if more that one person sends it in or can verify it on the site.

I thought about putting a form on the main website where people might submit prices there. We decided against it though, just to keep it to Twitter as it was initally designed. There are bugs in the parsing as you can see so the plan is to fix these up, allow for a couple of different syntax approaches and just do this stuff well rather than branching it out to Widgets.

Thanks for submitting prices, I have fixed that Douglas road input directly in the database, I'll update the code to parse the input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Nice one for the feedback, thats what I was hoping for.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know about those Search parameters, Thanks for that.</p>
<p>We plan to add price validation or approval, so users can give a price a &#8216;Thumbs up&#8217; or a verified vote if more that one person sends it in or can verify it on the site.</p>
<p>I thought about putting a form on the main website where people might submit prices there. We decided against it though, just to keep it to Twitter as it was initally designed. There are bugs in the parsing as you can see so the plan is to fix these up, allow for a couple of different syntax approaches and just do this stuff well rather than branching it out to Widgets.</p>
<p>Thanks for submitting prices, I have fixed that Douglas road input directly in the database, I&#8217;ll update the code to parse the input.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FuelTweet – A Twitter application sharing cheap fuel prices by David McCormack</title>
		<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/2010/02/fueltweet-%e2%80%93-a-twitter-application-sharing-cheap-fuel-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>David McCormack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to let you know, there's a little buglet in the parsing. I tweeted "@petroltweet Texaco in South Douglas Road is 126.9" and the little grid of latest prices on the website is showing the location as "South Douglas Road is".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to let you know, there&#8217;s a little buglet in the parsing. I tweeted &#8220;@petroltweet Texaco in South Douglas Road is 126.9&#8243; and the little grid of latest prices on the website is showing the location as &#8220;South Douglas Road is&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FuelTweet – A Twitter application sharing cheap fuel prices by David McCormack</title>
		<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/2010/02/fueltweet-%e2%80%93-a-twitter-application-sharing-cheap-fuel-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>David McCormack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea! Just a few observations and suggestions...

1. You can query prices just using search.twitter.com. For example, to see the petrol prices for Ballincollig since the weekend, you can just use a search string like:

"in Ballincollig" to:petroltweet since:2010-02-07

Sure, this might seem clunky at first and something for the power user. But it has a big advantage in that many Twitter clients let you save a search string for quick recall, i.e. people could get the latest price for their area in just a click or two.

2. If you introduced the concept of trusted price contributors (initially perhaps just by manually approving particular users, later by way of a web of trust) then you could automatically tweet (or possibly retweet) new prices from trusted contributors. This would allow people to see 'quality assured' prices as well as any old crap somebody might tweet at you. Or perhaps the trust concept should work in reverse, i.e. everyone is trusted unless you blacklist them.

3. You could very quickly put together a little widget (still using the Twitter infrastructure - not directly updating your database) that would enable people to contribute and query prices. Using a widget would have all sort of benefits. Most obviously, it would enable you to pre-populate lists with all the petrol stations and towns. Also, it would enable you to have greater structure on price update tweets. For example you could add hashtags or a geotag to more accurately describe the location (what happens now if you have prices for Dundrum in Dublin and Dundrum in Tipp?).

4. A map would be cool...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea! Just a few observations and suggestions&#8230;</p>
<p>1. You can query prices just using search.twitter.com. For example, to see the petrol prices for Ballincollig since the weekend, you can just use a search string like:</p>
<p>&#8220;in Ballincollig&#8221; to:petroltweet since:2010-02-07</p>
<p>Sure, this might seem clunky at first and something for the power user. But it has a big advantage in that many Twitter clients let you save a search string for quick recall, i.e. people could get the latest price for their area in just a click or two.</p>
<p>2. If you introduced the concept of trusted price contributors (initially perhaps just by manually approving particular users, later by way of a web of trust) then you could automatically tweet (or possibly retweet) new prices from trusted contributors. This would allow people to see &#8216;quality assured&#8217; prices as well as any old crap somebody might tweet at you. Or perhaps the trust concept should work in reverse, i.e. everyone is trusted unless you blacklist them.</p>
<p>3. You could very quickly put together a little widget (still using the Twitter infrastructure - not directly updating your database) that would enable people to contribute and query prices. Using a widget would have all sort of benefits. Most obviously, it would enable you to pre-populate lists with all the petrol stations and towns. Also, it would enable you to have greater structure on price update tweets. For example you could add hashtags or a geotag to more accurately describe the location (what happens now if you have prices for Dundrum in Dublin and Dundrum in Tipp?).</p>
<p>4. A map would be cool&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monitoring incoming and outgoing email with PHP by Gordon Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/2009/12/monitoring-incoming-and-outgoing-email-with-php/comment-page-1/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

Cool, I'll send you an email with the code and how to set it up. 

Gordon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>Cool, I&#8217;ll send you an email with the code and how to set it up. </p>
<p>Gordon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monitoring incoming and outgoing email with PHP by Dave Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/2009/12/monitoring-incoming-and-outgoing-email-with-php/comment-page-1/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent idea. I have the same problem and it constantly bugs me.

I would love to give the script a go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent idea. I have the same problem and it constantly bugs me.</p>
<p>I would love to give the script a go.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which links are users pressing to leave a page? by Calvin Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/2009/11/which-links-are-users-pressing-to-leave-a-page/comment-page-1/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Calvin Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/?p=239#comment-349</guid>
		<description>Hi Padraig,

As far as GA is concerned I don't think it makes any difference whether a page is dynamically constructed by the webserver or delivered from a static HTML file.

GA is triggered when the resulting HTML is rendered and the javascript GA code is invoked by a visitors' browser. The browser itself passes on a string of information like the user's IP address (which can tell you/your analitics software things like where they're browsing from), OS, the URL they're arriving from (along with any parameters, like search strings), etc.

So the short answer is yes, you can use GA just as effectively to track dynamic pages -- with the added advantage that you don't have to paste your tracking code into every page... you just add it to your template file and you're done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Padraig,</p>
<p>As far as GA is concerned I don&#8217;t think it makes any difference whether a page is dynamically constructed by the webserver or delivered from a static HTML file.</p>
<p>GA is triggered when the resulting HTML is rendered and the javascript GA code is invoked by a visitors&#8217; browser. The browser itself passes on a string of information like the user&#8217;s IP address (which can tell you/your analitics software things like where they&#8217;re browsing from), OS, the URL they&#8217;re arriving from (along with any parameters, like search strings), etc.</p>
<p>So the short answer is yes, you can use GA just as effectively to track dynamic pages &#8212; with the added advantage that you don&#8217;t have to paste your tracking code into every page&#8230; you just add it to your template file and you&#8217;re done.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which links are users pressing to leave a page? by Paraic Hegarty</title>
		<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/2009/11/which-links-are-users-pressing-to-leave-a-page/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Paraic Hegarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about dynamic web pages? Can you use GA to track the clicks on links on these or would Gordon's approach work instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about dynamic web pages? Can you use GA to track the clicks on links on these or would Gordon&#8217;s approach work instead?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monitoring incoming and outgoing email with PHP by Connor Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/2009/12/monitoring-incoming-and-outgoing-email-with-php/comment-page-1/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legend! This has been brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legend! This has been brilliant.</p>
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		<title>Comment on traffic from a competition by Kieran</title>
		<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/2009/12/traffic-from-a-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid competition - sulk :-)

Well done - good idea - nice traffic generator. And if you do SW you should have unit tested those wellies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid competition - sulk <img src='http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well done - good idea - nice traffic generator. And if you do SW you should have unit tested those wellies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Working outdoors is not all its cracked up to be by traffic from a competition &#124; Murmurs</title>
		<link>http://www.murrion.ie/murmurs/2009/11/working-outdoors-is-not-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-2/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>traffic from a competition &#124; Murmurs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the last week or so, I had a caption competition here on the blog. The 5 winners received 2GB USB keyrings compliments of [...]</description>
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